Is Harvey vs. Legora Turning into Harvey vs. Legora vs. Claude?
Artificial Lawyer's Richard Tromans joins for another excellent AI adventure
Is Claude stealing all of Harvey and Legora’s attention? Or as I recently posted on X:
Hey there, I’m Zach Abramowitz and I am Legally Disrupted. It was lovely getting to meet so many folks in person at ILTA EVOLVE and elsewhere who subscribe (or now subscribe) to the newsletter.
Speaking of lovely, right before I hit the road this week, I sat down with my pal Richard Tromans from Artificial Lawyer for another Excellent Legal AI adventure. And right now, lawyers want to know about Claude for legal.
We went deep on whether Claude is going to steal Harvey and Legora’s lunch. We are already seeing top-tier litigators bypass off-the-shelf products to build directly on base models. For example, Quinn Emanuel built their own proprietary system (the “Kerch Bench”) entirely on top of Claude. Instead of relying on an application-layer company, they are structuring their own case data, distilling depositions, and building custom Claude “skills” to draft briefs and conduct early case assessments. If litigators can achieve an order-of-magnitude productivity gain just by directly prompting Claude as a thought partner, what does that mean for companies like Harvey and Legora?
We also unpacked Freshfields’ announcement that they’re partnering with Google, followed by their announcement that they’re partnering with Anthropic. We talked about why someone would use Claude for legal workflows, both if they’re in a law firm or an in-house legal department.
We also got into the recent buzz about suspicious ARR numbers and bookkeeping by some startups. And finally, we discussed why lawyers are blowing AI hallucinations out of proportion. As we’ve discussed before on this show, human lawyers and judges hallucinate all the time. In fact, the entire appellate court system is predicated on the fact that humans make errors and hallucinate facts or law, which is exactly why we need a system to correct them.
Since I’m on the road, I’m a bit behind with updates on the podcast, but if you can keep a secret, episode 48 with legendary startup investor, founder, operator and currently Khosla Ventures MD Keith Rabois is out as well. Episode 49 with AI First firm Soxton.ai founder Logan Brown will be out this week as well (and that one was super fun). So make sure you subscribe to the podcast on YouTube, Apple, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. Subscribing to this newsletter is also a really good idea.
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